Tyra Banks is reflecting on her successful modeling career, including her well-publicized drama with Naomi Campbell.

The 45-year-old businesswoman sat down for an interview about her investments, branding and modeling with Wall Street Journal on Thursday (July 18).

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During the conversation, Tyra was asked about her relationship with Naomi Campbell and their rivalry.

“It wasn’t a rivalry, I’m very sensitive to that word because a rivalry is with two equals, whereas one was very dominant, and I was just some new girl that got on a plane from Paris,” she explained.

“I had a very painful early days in Paris…people didn’t know I was going home crying my eyes out because a woman that I was looking up to seemed like she just didn’t want me to there, and was doing everything in her power to make me go away.”

“I didn’t understand that as a young girl…the adult me understands that she was reacting to an industry that was all about a token,” she went on to say.

“When I came on the scene – Naomi, look out! There’s a black girl that’s going to take your spot. Only one spot available.”

Watch what Tyra Banks had to say about Naomi Campbell inside…